{"id":400,"date":"2010-11-01T09:00:57","date_gmt":"2010-10-31T21:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/?p=400"},"modified":"2012-09-25T02:01:32","modified_gmt":"2012-09-24T14:01:32","slug":"anti-newtonianism-in-moral-philosophy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/anti-newtonianism-in-moral-philosophy\/","title":{"rendered":"Anti-Newtonianism in moral philosophy?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Juan Gomez writes&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Peter Anstey recently posted a <a title=\"Peter Anstey's post\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2010\/10\/reply-to-schliesser\/\" target=\"_blank\">reply to Eric Schliesser&#8217;s criticisms<\/a> of the <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2010\/08\/experimental-philosophy-and-the-origins-of-empiricism\/\" target=\"_blank\">experimental\/speculative distinction<\/a> we are proposing. Eric posted some <a title=\"Eric Schliesser's post\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newappsblog.com\/2010\/10\/on-the-history-of-experimental-philosophy.html\" target=\"_blank\">comments on this topic<\/a> in the <em>New APPS: Art, Politics, Philosophy, Science<\/em> blog, where he expanded his criticisms by presenting a four-fold problem for our distinction. I quote the fourth point of criticism from Eric\u2019s post:<\/p>\n<ol><em>Fourth, and most important to the history of philosophy, when the &#8220;experimental&#8221; philosophy was introduced into moral areas (Turnbull, Hume, etc.) it was decidedly Baconian in character, and often quite hostile to Newton (but that story must await more detail later).<\/em><\/ol>\n<p>I am going to pitch in my reply before Eric gives us more details on this hostility to Newton. In my previous post on <a title=\"Turnbull on the experimental method\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2010\/10\/turnbull-and-the-%E2%80%98spirit%E2%80%99-of-the-experimental-method\/\" target=\"_blank\">the \u2018spirit\u2019 of experimental philosophy<\/a>, I attached a document with some quotes from Turnbull\u2019s <em>Principles of Moral Philosophy<\/em> that illustrate the opposite of Eric\u2019s claim. \u00a0The following are just the three most explicit quotes (you can <a title=\"Quotes from Turnbull's Principles\" href=\"http:\/\/otago.academia.edu\/JuanManuelGomez\/attachment\/1754467\/full\/Turnbull-s-quotes-on-the-experimental-method-\" target=\"_blank\">check this document for more<\/a> of them):<\/p>\n<ol><em>Account for MORAL, as the great <\/em>Newton<em> has taught us to explain for NATURAL Appearances, (that is, by reducing them to good general laws)<\/em> (Epistle dedicatory, i)<\/ol>\n<ol><em>The great Master <\/em>[Newton]<em>, to whose truly marvelous (I had almost said more than human) sagacity and accuracy, we are indebted for all the greater improvements that have been made in<\/em> Natural Philosophy,\u00a0<em>after pointing out in the clearest manner, the only way by which we can acquire real knowledge of any part of nature, corporeal or moral, plainly declares, that he looked upon the enlargement<\/em> Moral Philosophy\u00a0<em>must needs receive, so soon as<\/em> Natural Philosophy,\u00a0<em>in its full extent, being pursued in that only proper method of advancing it, should be brought to any considerable degree of perfection, to be the principal advantage mankind and human society would then reap from such science.<\/em> (Preface, iii)<\/ol>\n<ol><em>It was by this important, comprehensive hint <\/em>[Newton\u2019s]<em>, I was led long ago to apply myself to the study of the human mind in the same way as to that of the human body, or any other part of<\/em> Natural Philosophy:\u00a0<em>that is, to try whether due enquiry into moral nature would not soon enable us to account for<\/em> moral,\u00a0<em>as the best of<\/em> Philosophers <em>teaches us to explain<\/em> natural\u00a0<em>phenomena.<\/em> (Preface, iii)<\/ol>\n<p>One last thought, and a preview of a post in the near future, regarding Eric\u2019s comments: David Fordyce, regent at Marischal College for 10 years (1741-1751), studied in the same college in the 1720\u2019s when Turnbull was a regent. His posthumous publication <em>The Elements of Moral Philosophy<\/em> might fall under Eric\u2019s description of being \u2018Baconian in character,\u2019 but there is certainly no hostility to Newton, and it fits in nicely with our description of experimental philosophy. I leave you with a passage from Fordyce&#8217;s book. It is interesting to mention here that parts of Fordyce&#8217;s book were used by William Smellie&#8217;s for the entry on moral philosophy of his first edition of the <em>Encyclopaedia Britannica, <\/em>and were maintained in the following editions for decades.<\/p>\n<ol>Moral Philosophy<em> has this in common with <\/em>Natural Philosophy<em>,\u00a0that it appeals to <\/em>Nature<em> or <\/em>Fact<em>; depends on Observation, and\u00a0builds its Reasonings on plain uncontroverted Experiments, or upon the fullest\u00a0Induction of Particulars of which the Subject will admit. We must observe, in both\u00a0these Sciences, <\/em>Quid faciat &amp; ferat Natura<em>; how Nature is affected, and what her\u00a0Conduct is in such and such Circumstances. Or in other words, we must collect the <\/em>Phaenomena<em>, or <\/em>Appearances of Nature<em> in any given Instance; trace these to some <\/em>General Principles<em>, or <\/em>Laws of Operation<em>; and then apply these <\/em>Principles <em>or <\/em>Laws<em> to\u00a0the explaining of other <\/em>Phaenomena<em>. <\/em>(The Elements of moral Philosophy, 1754, p. 7-8)<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Juan Gomez writes&#8230; Peter Anstey recently posted a reply to Eric Schliesser&#8217;s criticisms of the experimental\/speculative distinction we are proposing. Eric posted some comments on this topic in the New APPS: Art, Politics, Philosophy, Science blog, where he expanded his [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4583,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[113],"tags":[207,208,224],"class_list":["post-400","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ideas","tag-george-turnbull","tag-moral-philosophy","tag-newton"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4583"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=400"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/400\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=400"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=400"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=400"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}