{"id":1224,"date":"2011-06-20T09:00:40","date_gmt":"2011-06-19T21:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/?p=1224"},"modified":"2012-09-25T02:09:15","modified_gmt":"2012-09-24T14:09:15","slug":"eric-watkins-experimental-philosophy-germany","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/eric-watkins-experimental-philosophy-germany\/","title":{"rendered":"Eric Watkins on Experimental Philosophy in Eighteenth-Century Germany"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Eric Watkins writes&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Having commented on two of Alberto Vanzo\u2019s papers at the <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2011\/03\/experimental-philosophy-abstracts\/\">symposium<\/a> recently held in Otago, I am happy to post an abbreviated version of my comments. The basic topic of Alberto\u2019s papers is the extent to which one can see evidence of the <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/the-project\/\">experimental \u2013 speculative philosophy distinction<\/a> (ESD) in two different periods in Germany, one from the 1720s through the 1740s, when <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2010\/10\/experiment-and-hypothesis-theory-and-observation-wolff-vs-newton\/\">Wolff<\/a> was a dominant figure, and then another from the mid 1770s through the 1790s, when <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2010\/11\/tetens-on-experimental-vs-speculative-philosophy\/\">Tetens<\/a>, Lossius, Feder, Kant, and <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2011\/03\/reinhold-empiricism-rationalism\/\">Reinhold<\/a> were all active. Alberto argues that though Wolff was aware of the works of many of the proponents of experimental philosophy and emphasized the importance of basing at least some principles on experience and experiments, he is not a pure advocate of either experimental or speculative philosophy. He then argues that some of the later figures, specifically Tetens, Lossius, Feder and various popular philosophers, undertook projects that could potentially be aligned with ESD, while <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/2011\/06\/mehigan-empiricism-rationalism-kant-reinhold-tennemann\/\">others<\/a>, such as Reinhold and later German Idealists, consciously rejected it, opting for the rationalism-empiricism distinction (RED) instead, which was better suited to their own agenda as well as to that of their German Idealist successors. As a result, Alberto concludes that ESD was an option available to many German thinkers, but that experimental philosophy was not a dominant intellectual movement, as it was in England and elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>I am in basic agreement with Alberto\u2019s main claims, but I\u2019d like to supplement the account he offers just a bit with a broader historical perspective. Two points about Wolff. First, when Wolff tries to address how the historical knowledge relates to the philosophical knowledge, which can be fully a priori, it is unclear how his account is supposed to go. As Alberto points out, Wolff thinks that data collection and theory building are interdependent, but he also thinks that we can have a priori knowledge. It\u2019s simply not clear how these two positions are really consistent and Wolff does not, to my mind, ever address the issue clearly enough. So I am inclined to think that Wolff is actually ambiguous on a point that lies at the very heart of ESD.<\/p>\n<p>Second, though Wolff was certainly a dominant figure in Germany, he is of course also not the only person of note. For one, throughout the course of the 18th century, experimental disciplines became much more widespread in Germany. So, in charting the shape and scope of ESD at the time, it would be useful to see what conceptions of knowledge and scientific methodology university professors in physics, physiology, botany, and chemistry had, if any. For another, after the resurrection of the Prussian Academy of Sciences by Frederick the Great in 1740, a number of very accomplished figures with reputations of European-wide stature, such as Leonhard Euler, Maupertuis, and Voltaire, came to ply their trade in Berlin. Virtually all of them were quite interested in experimental disciplines and several were extremely hostile towards Wolff. It would therefore be worth considering the full range of their activities to get a sense of their views on ESD.<\/p>\n<p>Let me now turn to the later time period. As Alberto argued, Kant isn\u2019t exactly the right figure to look to for the origin of the RED. Kant does not typically contrast empiricism with rationalism. Instead, when it comes to question of method and the proper use of reason, Kant\u2019s clearest statements in the Doctrine of Method are that the fundamental views are that of dogmatism (Leibniz), skepticism (Hume), indifferentism (popular philosophers), and finally the critique of pure reason, positions that do not line up neatly with either RED or ESD.<\/p>\n<p>However, it would be hasty to infer that there is no significant element of ESD in Kant. Kant dedicates the <em>Critique of Pure Reason<\/em> to Bacon, an inspiration to many of the British experimentalists. More importantly, one should keep in mind whom Kant is attacking in the first <em>Critique<\/em>, namely proponents of pure reason who use reason independently of the deliverances of the senses in their speculative endeavors. In many of these instances, the term \u201cspeculative\u201d is synonymous with \u201ctheoretical\u201d and is contrasted with \u201cpractical\u201d. However, in many others Kant is indicating a use of reason that is independent of what is given through our senses, and on that issue, it is a major thrust of Kant\u2019s entire Critical project to show that the purely speculative use of reason (pure reason) cannot deliver knowledge. In this sense, his basic project reveals fundamental similarities with experimental philosophers.<\/p>\n<p>Now the British experimental philosophers would presumably object to synthetic a priori knowledge on the grounds that this is precisely the kind of philosophical speculation that one ought to avoid. But Kant would respond that he is attempting to show that experiments in particular, and experience in general, have substantive rational presuppositions, a possibility that cannot be dismissed out of hand, given its intimate connection to what the experimental philosophers hold dear. This is one of the novel and unexpected twists that make Kant\u2019s position so interesting. So one could incorporate Kant into the ESD narrative by arguing that he is trying to save the spirit of the experimentalists against those who are overly enamored with speculation while still allowing for rational elements. On this account, then, Kant would be responding directly to the ESD, namely by trying to save it, albeit in an extremely abstract and fundamental way that original proponents of the view could never have anticipated.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric Watkins writes&#8230; Having commented on two of Alberto Vanzo\u2019s papers at the symposium recently held in Otago, I am happy to post an abbreviated version of my comments. The basic topic of Alberto\u2019s papers is the extent to which [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4581,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[113],"tags":[229,226,262,288,384],"class_list":["post-1224","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ideas","tag-empiricism","tag-experimental-philosophy","tag-german-philosophy","tag-kant","tag-rationalism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1224","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4581"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1224"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1224\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1224"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1224"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.otago.ac.nz\/emxphi\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1224"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}